BEEHIVE CHAPTER

MEETING

Sepember 17, 2008 Minutes:

Wendy Johnson   Dave Johnson X Chris Swenson

Skip Tandy X Charlie Powell   Jon Snelgrove X

Bruce Palmer X Bill West    Dan Rodriguez X

Dave excused Wendy and she is attending the Annual ICC Code Change/Business Meeting in Minneapolis, Minnesota. Also excused was Charlie Powell who is attending a Utah State Business Meeting. He welcomed everyone to today’s meeting, thanked Charlie and Skip for getting today’s lunch (chicken, salad, & drinks) and Orem City for being in charge of this month’s meeting. Skip indicated that he is working on and will have everyone’s CEU’s ready for 2006, 2007, and 2008 and will have these certificates ready to hand out at the December 10^th lunch meeting to be held at Cabelas.

Paul Ashton, Orem City Inspector and Annual Beehive Chapter Instructor @Aspen Grove Spring Training, was introduced by Dave to lead today’s open forum discussion.

The first item was the use of Tempered Glass in a 2^nd floor window, 72" above outside finished grade and over 18" above inside finished grade, located in a bedroom/den window seat. Does is need to be tempered? The 20+ inspectors in attendance voted that this does not pose a problem and does not need to have tempered glass.

Next topic was fiberglass window wells–Does this require a ladder for egress or can people climb out? Inspectors voted the need for a ladder reaching from the bottom of the window well.

Third topic was a discussion on stucco. Is expanded wire mesh required under artificial stone. There was a split vote on this one with the consensus being that the installation had to follow the manufacturer’s requirements/recommendations. Everyone did agree that a weather barrier, counter flashing, and caulking was required prior to the installation of the veneer. Also mentioned was the use of some unlisted foam insulation that was not performing as expected–result purchase a listed product only!

Final item was one from Don Blackburn, Heber City, and he wondered about an existing Walmart expansion. If there is an occupancy separation can it be looked at as two (2) separate builings or is it one (1) building? Decision from the other inspectors was to refer to Table 503 Allowable Height & Building Areas & Table 508.3.3 Required Separation of Occupancies.

This coming Wednesday, the 15^th, Tooele is in charge and the topic is draft stops. Dave Gillette has made arrangements for Chris Garcia, SLC Fire Department, to come and speak to us. Check out Section 717 Concealed Spaces 2006 IBC and maybe bring your 2006 IFC to this meeting too. I also have a question–Does anyone really read these minutes? If so, let me know by email, first five responders will win a prize (yet to be determined). Many thanks to Bruce for helping me with these minutes!

Remaining Monthly Beehive Chapter Class Schedule for 2008

Month Jurisdiction

November 19th	Tooele City
December 10th	2008 Annual Business Meeting @Cabelas

Motion to adjourn by Gary Smith and Paul Ashton.

NOTE: Please continue to park over by the Library and walk over-- it’s great exercise and helps on parking congestion too!

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